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		<title>Palo: preklep</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;preklep&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The NXT output signals seem to be able to eliminate overshoot, and other ugly effects seen&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The NXT output signals seem to be able to eliminate overshoot, and other ugly effects seen&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Palo at 17:56, 1 December 2006</title>
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				<updated>2006-12-01T17:56:47Z</updated>
		
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;We have been curious how do actually the signals that control the NXT motors&lt;br /&gt;
look like. The NXT output cable has 6 wires:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
MA0, MA1  - &amp;quot;PWM&amp;quot; output signals to actuators&lt;br /&gt;
GND, POWERMA - optional power source for embedded devices&lt;br /&gt;
TACHOA0, TACHOA1 - internal rotation sensors&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The MA0, MA1 are compatible with the RCX's motor, so they are not any&lt;br /&gt;
kind of control signal to a servo motor, they are simply connected to&lt;br /&gt;
two poles of a DC motor so that they can drive it forward or backward&lt;br /&gt;
depending on changing polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When the motor is running full-speed, the MAX signals are simply connected&lt;br /&gt;
to ground and battery voltage to drive the motor maximum speed. When the&lt;br /&gt;
motor strength is decreased, the power is supplied in impulses with length&lt;br /&gt;
proportional to the desired power:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:nxt_motor_50_percent.png | NXT motor running half speed]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Plot of the MA signal when NXT motor is running half speed (50%).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:nxt_motor_75_percent.png | NXT motor running 75% speed]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Plot of the MA signal when NXT motor is running 75% speed.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(note that the drive is supplied when the signal is low; &lt;br /&gt;
the other MA signal is always high). Similarly, the signal looks&lt;br /&gt;
the same, just inverted for 25% power.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''So the frequency of oscillations generated by NXT is 8kHz'''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And it is possible to drive the old RCX motors using these outputs and&lt;br /&gt;
the conversion cable supplied by LEGO.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It can be interesting to compare these measurements to signals generated&lt;br /&gt;
by RCX: we look at both the standard firmware and BrickOS firmware. Those&lt;br /&gt;
signals look like this:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:rcx_motor_rcx_motor_nqc_57_percent.png | RCX motor running on power 4 out of 7 with standard firmware (and NQC program)]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
RCX motor running on power 4 out of 7 with standard firmware (and NQC program).&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:rcx_motor_rcx_motor_brickos_50_percent.png | RCX motor running on half of full power with BrickOS firmware]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
RCX motor running on half of full power with BrickOS firmware.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:rcx_motor_rcx_motor_brickos_75_percent.png | RCX motor running on 3/4th of full power with BrickOS firmware]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
RCX motor running on 3/4th of full power with BrickOS firmware.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The NXT output signals seem to be able to eliminate overshoot, and other ugly effects seen&lt;br /&gt;
in the RCX motor plots. The RCX oscillates its motor output on 500 kHz in both firmwares.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Finally, once we had an oscilloscope on, we also looked at the signal on the RCX's activated&lt;br /&gt;
light sensor, it looks as follows (with BrickOS firmware):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:rcx_light_brickos.png | RCX active light sensor sampling]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
RCX active light sensor sampling.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It appears that the sampling frequency is about 6.5 kHz.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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